{"id":62,"date":"2008-02-16T04:14:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-16T04:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/eclecticamateur.wordpress.com\/2008\/02\/16\/compare-and-contrast"},"modified":"2013-03-19T16:46:25","modified_gmt":"2013-03-19T20:46:25","slug":"compare-and-contrast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.znfrey.com\/blog\/2008\/02\/compare-and-contrast.html\/","title":{"rendered":"Compare and Contrast"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Compare <a href=\"http:\/\/news.ncmonline.com\/news\/view_article.html?article_id=9591cba5f97e9f1b3743a1331f2ce5e5\">this<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-style: italic;\"><p>LOS ANGELES &#8211; The Bishop of the Epsicopal diocese of Los Angeles has issued an apology to Hindus worldwide for what he called &#8220;centuries-old acts of religious discrimination by Christians, including attempts to convert them&#8221; reports India Abroad. The apology was given in a statement read to over 100 Hindu spiritual leaders at a mass from Right Reverend J John Bruno. The ceremony started with a Hindu priestess blowing a conch shell three times and included sacred chants.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This meeting was the result of a dialogue, started three years ago, between Hindu leaders and Rev. Karen MacQueen, who was deeply influenced by Hindu Vedanta philosophy and opposes cultivating conversions. &#8220;There are enough Christians in the world,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>With <a href=\"http:\/\/branthansen.typepad.com\/letters_from_kamp_krusty\/2008\/02\/kumar-sits-in-t.html\">this<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Each Sunday morning, Kumar sits<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: italic;\"> in a folding chair, waiting for the rock band to start up, and the preacher to give a seeker-sensitve sermon. The chairs are partly filled, in a school gymnasium, just outside Washington, D.C.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">He&#8217;s a small man, from Chennai, India, and here, in the rows for the audience, he&#8217;s part of someone&#8217;s Big Vision. Like many others, the church start-up has a visionary, who hopes it becomes the next Willow Creek, even hoping to buy 40 acres in suburban D.C. (Anyone got a half-bil for that?)<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">And Kumar, who&#8217;s 36, drives each day to his office job at Sun Microsystems, where he spends a lot of time checking urgent email from very far away.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">Friday night, I walked with Kumar, and our mutual friend, Woody, to a crowded Whole Foods Market in Alexandria. I made a salad about four times bigger than his, but when we got back to the hotel room, it took him a couple hours to finish. I kept asking questions. He kept answering.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">Kumar was on a crowded bus in Chennai, India. He heard God&#8217;s voice. &#8220;Unmistakably,&#8221; he says. I heard God say, twice, &#8216;Seek Me.&#8217; That was it. Twice.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">Just &#8220;Seek Me&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8220;Just &#8216;Seek Me&#8217;. And I knew it was God, but which God? I was Hindu. Was it Vishnu? Calli&#8230;? No idea. I just knew it was God. Somehow, I knew it. Unmistakable.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">And Kumar isn&#8217;t the gullible type. He has multiple advanced degrees in Aero Engineering and Physics, for starters, from the M.I.T.-equivalent in India.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">He studied and researched, but just wasn&#8217;t satisfied that it was one of his familiar gods, and eventually found a friend with a Bible &#8212; a &#8220;good luck charm&#8221; &#8212; and traded a textbook for it. He started reading, got confused, but eventually was pointed to Jesus.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">He became a Jesus-follower. Costly decision.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">His parents weren&#8217;t happy. They scheduled an arranged marriage. Kumar met his wife-to-be on Friday, told her and his parents on Saturday about his Jesus decision, and got married on Sunday. &#8220;They thought it would blow over,&#8221; he says. It didn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">Six months later, there was an intervention. Her family, his family, neighbors, friends &#8212; 150 people strong &#8212; all telling him to repudiate his faith. He refused. His parents, fearing for their reputation, said he should leave the area immediately. They would tell everyone that he was dead.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">A few years later, he went back to India. Kumar took his vacation from Sun, and headed over with no plan. He just went door-to-door, and told people about Jesus.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">The first day, 45 people decided to become Jesus-followers. How&#8217;d THAT happen?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8220;I don&#8217;t know. I just went door to door, and neighbors would introduce me to others, and I was amazed.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">Kumar still takes his vacations, two weeks a year, and heads to India. But things have grown. From those first 45, and from his trips over the past seven years&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-style: italic;\">More than 100,000 conversions. 139 communities. More than 100 pastors. Model orphanages for children suffering from AIDS Schools for Dalit children, the lowest-of-the-low in India. Shelters for little girls, now rescued from prostitution. Food. Medicine. Jesus.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Read the whole thing. Seeing both of these stories on the same day, well &#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-style: italic;\"><p>&#8220;To be sane in a mad time is bad for the brain, worse for the heart.&#8221; &#8212; Wendell Berry.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What could be more mad than to be a Christian who doesn&#8217;t want to tell people about Jesus?<\/p>\n<p>And yet &#8230; in the grand scheme of things, I&#8217;m far more like +Bruno than like Kumar.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Mea culpa. 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